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Tech Stories Archives - June 2008

1. Top 10 list
TechRepublic's 10 most annoying programs on the internet (dead on with each one, I think): http://content.techrepublic.com.com/2346-3513_11-202392.html?tag=nl.e099.dl052808&tag=nl.e099
[By: teivrann / 2008-06-01]
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  • dead on target -srteach
  • gdammit. anyone want to whiteboard me with the names of the programs? grrr -AdmiralLaurie
  • Well, I see I haven't missed anything by cutting off Real Player at the firewall. "It installs a 'Message Center' that tells you about microcelebrities." LOL. -concept14
  • I hope those are ordered 10 to 1 -- because if so, I totally agree that Flash is the worst thing to happen to web site development since HTML could be composed in Word! (My company's new web site is so flash-heavy that clients still on dial-up have decided to go to our competitors instead!) -Captain Trips
  • Sorry, but Norton is definitely up there. Worst. "Security suite". Evar. Java sucks for another reason that they only hinted at: when most programs do an update, they update/replace whatever version you currently have installed. Java simply stacks new versions on top of eachother. So you have to rip out the old version, restart your PC and THEN install the new one from (http://tinyurl.com/fwrh)... -Seamus
  • http://tinyurl.com/fwrh Sorry. -Seamus
  • One more note: Why only bitch about the Yahoo! Toolbar? Google, MyWebSearch (which is actually spyware), and a thousand others exist, and Google's at least just as prolific and annoying. I was just wondering. -Seamus
  • Anyone in the know replaces RealPlayer with RealPlayer Alternative. It allows you to view RealMedia files through Windows Media Player, and not have the RealPlayer try to take over all media files on your PC. -Wraith556
  • I disagree with the verdict on Java. Never has it pushed on me the (WORTHLESS) yahoo toolbar. It allows more power than flash in web pages, or fully functional offline applications that run on nearly any operating system. I also disagree with the Flash verdict. Yes it's overused, but Flash itself is not annoying. It's useful and fun, unless you've got to go to websites whose designers can't help but show off their terrible tweening. -linuxmatt
  • Linuxmatt - Java is useful, yes...but the update protocol is crap - sending out whole new versions is just.plain.wrong. -lineswine
  • With having to deal with over 2500 abusers, all 10 suck and the people who produce this crap should all have to...DIE IN FIRE! -drakenfly
  • If there have to be only 10, I would replace Java with Quicktime. Quicktime is The Most Important Application Ever Installed In Your PC, and it MUST load on boot Always. It is IMPERATIVE that Quicktime loads on boot. You want to disable the loading on boot? No no no! The next time you boot it WILL be restored because it must be so. -TheGhost
  • Norton Ad: "We're so security conscious we even ban secure connections!" The deepest pits of hell are too good for them. They should be forced to listen to Barry Manilow until their ears bleed! (or they gain a conk of similar size, either way is fine by me). -Loon
  • Norton is bad, yes. And should be purged. But it is just a demi-evil compared to ZoneAlarm. Or Windows LiveOne Care. -sandpuppeteer

  • 2. Blame your server. Really.
    I received this trouble ticket from someone who said that the mail quota reporting on his account was wrong and we need to fix it. His inbox has 5mb in it, but he is getting overlimit messages (the box limit is 20mb). Blah, blah, yackity smackity, it's our fault and fix it.

    So I look into his mailbox -- he didn't specify which box on the account so I had to do the legwork -- and see indeed the inbox has 5mb of stuff and the gauge says there's 20 megs. Say, wait, there's a plus sign in front of the word "Inbox". There's a subfolder named "alerts", with 86 instances (several per day, many days) of an email sent by his company server to this box. Each message is a log file of 190kb. Doing the math, that's 17 megs in a folder he'd overlooked and was neigh onto nasty about.

    I politely suggested he have his server notices go somewhere else or have whatever computer reads those alerts (if there is one) turn on "delete from server". kthxbai.

    [By: Mushroom / 2008-06-02]
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  • *clickity clickity clickity click* Done! You have 20MB of room now! </bofh> -unrenowned
  • I was tempted to do that, but figured he wouldn't learn anything if I didn't let him do it himself. :) -Mushroom
  • Mushroom: He STILL wouldn't learn even if he DID do it himself... -unrenowned
  • Teach a man to fish, and he'll come up with some big lies. :) -Mushroom

  • 3. It doesn't like him
    A friend of mine (now boyfriend?) has been over to my apartment twice now. I have a MacBook dual-booting Tiger and Ubuntu Hardy (I almost always use Hardy) and a pair of external speakers. I do not normally have any problems with sound. Both times that he's been over, however, the sound selectively cuts out in Hardy. Youtube videos still have sound, but downloaded videos don't have sound and Amarok freezes the whole system when I try to play a song. Restarting X or rebooting doesn't change anything. Booting into Tiger works, I can play downloaded videos and music. Unplugging the speakers doesn't have an effect. He leaves, and the next morning the sound works again. I'm starting to think Hardy is either possessed or doesn't like him. Does anyone have any ideas to help me out with this?
    [By: Seamyst / 2008-06-02]
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  • Get a new boyfriend? -bbcisdabomb
  • I'll second the new boyfriend vote! It's easier than reinstalling software. -ecoli
  • ..... BESIDES getting a new boyfriend. I happen to like him very much. -Seamyst
  • Obviously it's either jealous or gets all choked up over him. -TieDyedDinosaur
  • do you like him or do you Like Like him? -neuman1812
  • /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload Usualy works for me when once in a while my soundcard gets into what seems like an endless loop. -HrO
  • Woops, forgot to mention that was on deb-etch, but i suspect Ubu-HH won't be much different since they're just about next of kin. -HrO
  • Advice: if you Like Like him, he may lose his shield. -CptDzastr
  • Get him to bring his own system with him, yours may not break then. Anyways, how else are you supposed to play an MMO together? It counts as "personal time" doesn't it? -Loon
  • well, you know what they say: Linux is quite user friendly, it's just very picky about who it's friends with. -miyako
  • Step 1: Identify the source of the problem. Step 2: Change the speakers to failover to Rickrolling. Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit! -illiterate
  • SOMEDAY Linux may have good audio apps that work without fighting back...and wireless, and scanners, and tablets, and printers,...oops, sorry, must have dozed off for a minute -stiffarm

  • 4. Middle manglement - go figure!

    Yours truly was tasked with updating 1st line documentation and guides by the line mangler. Put it in writing says I! They did. Bollocks.

    I duly started updating the documents and one of the tasks required was to reduce the connection SOP to a Boolean logic tree with notes (typical "if then else or" mullarkey) which I duly did.

    I handed the preliminary copy to the line mangler this morning and waited for feedback. Which duly arrived as "It's too complicated".

    I made one simple revision (but took 2 hours to do so - why should I rush?) and resubmitted it. Instant approval.

    The change I made was not to the layout, nor to the content.

    "What did you do?" I hear you ask.

    I colour coded the process. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. It appears that a daily process is way too complicated in monochrome yet works perfectly in colour.

    The moral of this story? Take EXACTLY THE SAME THING and add some colour, manglement like the pretty colours!

    [By: Loon / 2008-06-02]
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  • Gawds, what a fucknugget - perfect mangler, though. *pat pat* Good mangler. Good boy! Mangler wanna treat? (whispers) get the rat poison! -Seamus
  • Waiting 2 hours contributed substantially to the process -> Their short term memory of rejecting the document had timed out! -TieDyedDinosaur
  • Dexter's sister Dee Dee likes pretty butterflies, I guess..... -vacuumtubes
  • "I satisfied his need for unnecessary changes while waiting for the color copies to print." </Wally> -SalParadise
  • <da>Actually, I find that color makes any document easier to read and understand. Even a simple one color means yes, the other means no would make things easier for me.</da> -bbcisdabomb
  • A manager has to manage. If they can't they start to feel insecure. So they always find a way to send you back to re-do something the first time. After that they have managed you and are not so insecure. -Gerund
  • Yes, but now you have to put it into an interactive PowerPoint presentation. Then they'll send it off to India (no offense to anyone intended), and have you train them on it. Let me know how that works out for you. <i'll just shoot myself now, 'cause that's what i'm doing> -AngrySup
  • PLEASE tell me you the submitted version had RETINA-BLINDING yellow and HEART-ATTACK pink as lines in there? (if not, when are you rolling out THAT version?) -ShujinTribble
  • Right after it passes final QA... -AngrySup
  • What's really great is when you color code the stuff, and then they go and print it out in B&W, and not only is it exactly the same as your first version, now it has the added bonus of certain sections being unreadable due to light colored text or dark colored backgrounds. -AmazingKreskin
  • *ahem* "OOOOOOooooohhhhh! Shiny!" -unrenowned
  • Been there, seen that... only after I colored the "optimal path" with light red, was one of my process description diagram accepted. Rest of them (did 8 at same time) went unnoticed. -NordicPT
  • "...and I did it all while the color copies were printing." -Geminii

  • 5. Spaghetti wiring
    I helped a FOAF with resolving a problem getting com-'mold' internet access this weekend. The problem was caused by far too many splitters/amplifiers/old cables.

    Imagine, if you can, an installation where the cable attaches to the North end of the house, is tacked up around the side, back and other side to the original cable location where it encounters a splitter that was already present.

    Fine. Now the two cables head back around the house, one goes downstairs to an amplifier to support three TVs. The other cable goes nearly all the way back around the house and up to the second story.

    This second cable now proceeds to enter a maze of: An amplifier, a splitter, another splitter and then an amplifier/distribution point.

    One of the six outputs then goes down into the garage to another splitter, each of the outputs goes to a separate room, one of which is the office.

    In the office there is now a splitter to connect a TV and the modem. No connectivity, apparently the bandwidth was being throttled just a bit too much SOMEWHERE!

    Solution was to add another splitter at the point where the new cable was added and put a line directly to the office, which was less than twenty feet away. And, of course, replacing a couple of sick end connectors on other cables as well as the odd stub terminator for unused splitter outputs.

    I am NOT going to mention what the phone lines looked like, there must have been two dozen outlets in the house![By: TieDyedDinosaur / 2008-06-02]
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  • "Don't anybody move! Hold it right there! A *FUSE* is out..." </The Old Man, A Christmas Story> -vacuumtubes
  • I've talked with many installers, and the reason that shit happens is because the sucktomer is too cheap to pay for a home to be properly fished through walls, so they tell the teck to just run it around the house and go from there. HSI (and for that matter VoIP) should be right off the first leg, no amp. Not behind 3 splitters and about 100 yards of weather-cracked RG-59 stapled to the siding. -deskmonkey
  • I had cable hooked up at my current home, but couldn't get the net, I looked, had 9 splits right at the box. -LazyLemming
  • Spaghetti wiring: I visualize you unshaved and wearing a hat and a poncho, explaining the customer you'll fix his wiring "for a fistful of dollars". <Cue Ennio Morricone's music> -TheGhost
  • Sometimes it's a lot easier to just rip it all out and start over. -atomicbill
  • Youch! -rosemetal

  • 6. You BROKE It!

    With our remaining legacy system still in place for a bit at the hotel, (first half installed, last half yet to come online), we still have a large line printer set up as the system printer to give us our primary reports. This big ole' box still uses the tractor-feed printer paper for the reports, so we still order cases of 14"x11" stuff to feed the monster.

    Our Purchasing Manager found an opportunity to cut our costs by ordering from an old stock of the classic green-bar printer paper, so the FD and Audit staff had to get used to reading their numbers off of something other than a stark white sheet. No big deal, you think? Tracking across lines is the entire reason the paper is printed that way? Yes! Still caused quite a bit of griping.

    Staff on duty ran it out of paper, and didn't know how to reload the paper. Thought I'd do the "green-bar-o'phobes" a favor, and loaded the next case backwards, so the reports would print on the white side of the paper. They were delighted at not having to look at the green bars, and I thought nothing more of it.

    Fast forward to the next day...

    After I get back in the next afternoon, day shift employee was looking at reports.

    CW: "It's not printing over the bars!"

    Me: "Yeah"

    CW: "But how is the printer printing backward on the other side of the paper? Is it busted?"

    Geez... how do ya think, numbnuts?[By: Voz / 2008-06-02 ]
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  • And ... "The printer is broken again, the pages don't start at the perforations!" -TieDyedDinosaur
  • Don't get me started on these folks aligning the paper- they think the "Set Top Of Form" button means, "yet another button I don't know how to use, so I'll ignore it!" -Voz
  • At least it isn't a 3211. The RIBBON was 60 feet long (17 inches wide) and it could go through a full box of paper (18 inches deep) in less time than you could drink a paper cup of coffee. 2000 lines per minute and skipped to top of page fast enough to throw the first sheet a foot in the air! -TieDyedDinosaur
  • PC Load Fucquenughet. -vacuumtubes
  • <charlie brown> good grief! </charlie brown> -rosemetal
  • hmm... I just thought of a great prank. Can you set it to print on the white side, and with the letters facing backwards? -TheGhost

  • 7. Do-it-all Help Desk
    Me: "Thank you for calling the Student Support Help Desk at $CommunityCollege, this is NetOwl, how can I help you?" SF: "Hi, I'm registering for classes, could you tell me how many credits I need for an Associates Degree?" Me: "Sir, this is the student EMAIL Help Desk. You want to talk to the Advising Office." Note that this is AFTER they've listened to a pre-recorded spiel about how this is a tech support line, and they pressed 1 to actually talk to me.
    [By: NetOwl / 2008-06-02]
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  • Pretty much any student should know that. 90, right? -illiterate
  • Actually does remind me of one of my favorite customers from my days in cellular support. Dude was the IT, equipment maintenance, plumber, basically whatever the hell needed fixing. -illiterate
  • Don't you know that when your help desk line is repeating information to them, they're actually singing to the songs in their head? All they hear is "Doo Doo Doo *help* doot doot doo *not* dee deet dee *emergency* dwa dwa *talk*" -Darkridr
  • Take solace in the fact that they will graduate and become a user somewhere and continue to do this throughout their career. -Slartarama
  • I work for a large telecom and I got a call where the customer wanted to know his economic stimulus check was -areatech
  • Netowl- careful, they'll call back in fifteen minutes asking for the number of the Advising Office. -Voz
  • Take a note of the student's name and forward to the Admin Group requesting they HIGHLY SCRUTINIZE this person's classwork. -ShujinTribble
  • Voz - Nah, I gave them the number the first time. -NetOwl
  • you know that we always wonder have some total fucking idiot became upper management? Well, here are the seeds of this particular nightmare. My suggestion is to invoke Darwin, now. -lineswine
  • I do helpdesk and have had/heard calls for: A/C, Power, broken furniture, moving furniture, and emptying the garbage. -Starfury

  • 8. no, your *other* left
    The following is a series of communications with a customer. Names have been changed to protect the guilty.

    in: I used to be a customer of [FailCo] and they're going out of business, so now I need to move my domain name to you.
    out: In order to transfer your name, we need proof of your identity and a screenshot of your [FailCo] account.
    in: Okay, here is my identity {attached: five(!) files}. What else did you need?
    out: A screenshot of your [FailCo] account.
    in: Here is a screenshot of my account with you. {attached: same thing I can see if I click one button}
    out: No, log into your [FailCo] account and take a screenshot of that.
    in: I don't have access to that. Our webmaster left the company 6 months ago and didn't give us any of the information. What do I do?
    out: You'll have to get that information from [FailCo]. (Good luck with that.)

    [By: Mushroom / 2008-06-03]
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  • Epic Failco. -AmazingKreskin
  • Lol, If I had a company I'd name it FailCo now. -Slartarama
  • Because FailCo actually pwns the domain, I take it? -illiterate
  • Yes, [FailCo] pwns this guy's domain, and we pwn [FailCo]'s domains. We CAN fix him, but he had to prove that we SHOULD. :) -Mushroom
  • I think fixing the customer might be a better business model than fixing his problems. -illiterate
  • You're right. I'll get the scissors. :) -Mushroom

  • 9. Disaster Recovery Plans, Dilbert Style
    http://dilbert.com/animation/comic/2008-06-03/
    [By: crazymactech / 2008-06-03]
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  • Looks like a fairly standard solution! -TieDyedDinosaur
  • Every place I have worked had that plan. -Gerund
  • What browser/plugin/nonstandard Javascript engine do you need to get the animation to display? -concept14

  • 10. Joy Joy
    The joy of working from home...I feels it! They decided to test WFH with us today. They thought I couldnt do it running Linux. HA! I shows them, except for having to run the phone software under WINE everything else works.
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  • whats wrong with wine. it is a natural progression of windows usage in linux -gashach
  • You know, I hate to admit this, but I really don't like working from home all the time. I do it now and then, but most of the time, honestly, I'd rather go to the office to work. I have too much trouble staying focused otherwise. And when your attention is waning, 8 hours feels like 8 days. -veaudaux
  • I second V's sentiment. All of my home computers are within easy reach of TV and my DVD collection. -TheCyberwolfe
  • And my bottles... -AngrySup
  • Too close to beer and to far away from responsibility (during the summer anyhoo) -Darkridr

  • 11. the look on my face
    Everyday, at least twice or thrice, I open the door for someone only to have them try to push the door further. The look on my face isnt a mean snarl, or even slightly disapproving, its my face, just my unemotional face. I'm not secretly plotting to slam the door on you as you walk by. I am not incapable of holding open the door on my own, for the breif amount of time it takes you to waddle through. You dont even have to say thanks, or acknowledge my precence... just dont touch the damn door and let me be a gentleman before I DO slam that sucker on your rotund rump. Been reading here for a lil while... but it wasnt until recently that i needed to blow off steam... looking forward to the years of enjoyment you folks can bring.
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  • When someone doesn't say thanks to me, I just say "You're welcome" when they walk by. -BarmanVarn
  • Welcome to TSC! We all started out lurking . . . but the urge to say something soon takes over. :) Thus the LART Shelter, and Pond Life! -ManyHats
  • They're Lusers. What were you really expecting? That they might acknowledge your existence? You have much to learn young grasshopper. -ecoli
  • Collerary: If I'm holding the door open for you, don't open the other door and go through it. -Mushroom
  • and for F*$$ sake look me in the eye when when I open the door for you, I'm not going to murder you for making eye contact. -drachen
  • Drachen won't, but I will.... -CyBear

  • 12. FAIL ... a la burrkiss
    View the image and you tell me ... : http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/fail-congratulations.jpg ( SFW )
    [By: Necros / 2008-06-03]
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  • Doesn't sound like a failure to me! -SalParadise
  • Awwwwwwwwwwwwww, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.... -vacuumtubes
  • they really tried to pretend it was a typo and not a major prank. -illiterate
  • "We'll come again next time!" -Mushroom
  • Hell, if I were him I'd have it blown up and hung on the wall, but probably not at home. -Darkridr
  • Hell, my husband would have had the ad blown up, mounted on the wall in an obvious location, and would probably point to it when I was being disagreeable. -DizzyDan
  • Damned straight I get praise from multiple women at the same time. *shakes groin* -burrkiss

  • 13. Computer Bug

    $Owner: *over intercom* Riff?
    ME: Yes, sir?
    $Owner: I've got a small computer bug I need your help with.
    ME: Be right there.

    *short walk to $Owner's office*

    ME: What's up?
    $Owner: I've got a small bug... *pointing to screen*

    Sure enough, there was a tiny bug crawling around behind the glass of his screen.

    $Owner: Sorry, I just couldn't resist the joke.
    ME: I thought *I* was the punster around here.
    $Owner: Hey, you know what? Maybe he's after my cookies!
    ME: *groan*

    I swear, some days I don't know whether to laugh or cry around this place.

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  • have you shown him the pics of other bugs you've found inside computers? -illiterate
  • No, I have unfortunately misplaced those. If anyone has a copy of them, please whiteboard me? -RiffRaff
  • I knew you were a bad influence. Now you've gone and corrupted your boss. ;-) -wolfprince
  • Flawless victory....for the boss. BFEG and LOL -redevil34
  • next time insist on a screenshot before going over. :) -Bynar
  • Cool Boss... -SoldierJedi
  • How do you get a bug behind the glass? I thought a CRTube was sealed? -VFox
  • Often the glare shield is not inegral with te front of teh CRT, and there can be an air space between them big enough for a very small bug. Likewise on an LCD, sometimes there is an air gap between the glass and the actual sealed unit, though not as often. -chazz

  • 14. Another one from the "Ricky" file!

    We've all known those supervisors who seem to do nothing but get in the way. The work gets tough, and all they do is tell you to take calls faster, document your notes, and offer HBO to everyone. You'd like nothing more than to tell them to grab a headset or get the hell out of the way. Of course, usually the more rational part of your mind tells you they can't, since they have supervisorly duties of their own to attend to. They're probably screwing those up too, but at least that's not your problem.

    For better or worse, you learn to live with these types. What can cause you to lose all patience, however, is when they make it clear that they REALLY DO have enough free time to help you out, were they so inclined. Unfortunately, they're more inclined to make a pest of themselves.

    We rearrainge our desks yet again, since CableISP thinks leaving well enough alone will cause our stock value to plummet. I get the row of desks facing the aisle. I always hated that, since I find people moving behind me to be distracting when I'm trying to concentrate. The only thing behind me was, unfortunately, Ensign Ricky's supervisor desk. Yes, an aisle seat AND within eyeshot of the boss. If the office were a real estate map, I was living in the projects.

    So, I get this call from a dialup customer who has trouble getting a connection. Symthoms are all over the map. Sometimes he connects, sometimes he doesn't. He's read off two or three different error messages. The behavior is not at all consistent, so it'll take a bit more thought than your standard "Does your password work?" and "Do you have a virus?". I run through the basic stuff first-- un/pwd, check the wiring, ask about antivirus and firewalls. then I walk him through deleting and re-creating his DUN info. I do this because it never hurts to try, and also because I need to think about the most logical course of action should the obvious stuff fail. I remembered an issue like this from MONTHS back, but how did I solve it? Think, think, think...

    As I talked the customer through it all, I look up at my screen to see if he makes a connection. Suddenly, I get an IM window that says "THE CUSTOMER YOU ARE TALKING TO NEEDS A NEW DIAL UP ACCESS NUMBER."

    Whaaaaaat??? I had been so deep in thought that I couldn't process this. Not just the solution itself, but how it got to be on my screen. I was so frustrated, and so confused by the turn of events that my first thought was honestly that my computer had just become HAL or something. Then I checked the log... it was sent by Ricky, who was sitting behind me, monitoring my call. The problem was, eliminating an access number issue was the FIRST thing I'd checked, so I knew that wasn't the case. However, our messaging system only worked one way, so I had no way to tell him that. You'd think if he was actually monitoring me, he'd figure that out, but his teching skills weren't so hot. At wasting my time, however, Ricky had mad skillz.

    So, I continue to troubleshoot the issue, and Ricky continues to send me messages saying "CHANGE HIS ACCESS NUMBER!" and "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" I finally get the customer squared away, probably taking five minutes more than I would have if my concentration hadn't been broken up by his crazy IMing. He comes over and asks me WHY MY TROUBLESHOOTING TOOK SO LONG!?!?!

    Bat! NOW!

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  • Yeah. I once had a coach back on BellSloth Netsend me several solutions during a call that I'd already tried. Once all was said and done, my nerves were shot, I was this >< close to throttling the fucking bint who THEN had the audacity to waltz up and ask, "What took so long? Why is your eye twitching? Do you need a five-minute break?" I. Just. LOOKED. At. Her. Then nodded. -Seamus
  • Sounds like a precursor to this guy: http://www.break.com/index/office-worker-goes-absolutely-insane.html -Stryker One
  • Kill...Clouseau. Kill....kill....KILL! -vacuumtubes
  • That would get anoing. our IM works both ways - so we could ask questions and the can pester us with questions -compbrat
  • 'because someone kept breaking my concentration by sending be useless advice through pop-ups. I haven't checked the logs yet, but when I do they are going to hear from me that I had already tried everything they were telling me to do.'...'oh these were from you? I'll try to speed things up faster next time.' -drachen
  • Your solution is obvious! Make up a series of construction paper signs. When 'Ricky Dicky' IMs you with a suggestion, simply hold up the appropriate sheet over your shoulder. Suggestions. The flying fickle finger of fate, A schematic of him locating his ass with a map, The words 'Get Serious!', any other soothing ideas? -TieDyedDinosaur
  • Negative, folks... When that happens, you tell the customer after a quick pause, "..OH! And I just got a suggestion from my supervisor to try $Step_Already_Done, which we already did.... so that message about this call might be monitored? Apparently this one IS today. Let's continue, now....." -ShujinTribble

  • 15. barking up the wrong cat here, pal
    Big domain registrars produce little domain registrars (resellers), who then spread their seed all over the land far and wide. However, some do this as a serious business, some do this as a money-making sideline to their day job, and others go at it half-assed for shits and grins and frankly could give a flying fsck through a rolling donut across the lunar surface about their customers. Apparently this email involves the lattermost option.

    email in: What kind of game are you people playing? I paid your reseller for [domain] and you took the money, but I don't see the domain in my account! (yackity smackity rant rave name-call finger-point request-binky-and-blankie)

    I do my due dilligence and check the domain... it's not in our system, and a WHOIS at Network Solutions offers to sell it to me. Oops. I then check our accounting and there are no transactions this calendar year from him. Double oops.

    email out: You're going to want to contact your reseller immediately and ask them that question. The domain is still available for public purchase, so your reseller didn't buy it for you. We didn't take your money, your reseller did -- the funds were never received by this company. Sucks to be you, and have a nice day!

    (Okay, that last line I fudged on. I don't tell people in writing to have a nice day.)
    [By: Mushroom / 2008-06-04]
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  • Did you attach a nelson "Ha-ha" wav file? -illiterate

  • 16. IT people, your thoughts
    I just read this article about why "we won't fix your personal computer". IT team, your thoughts? http://www.broowaha.com/article.php?id=3671
    [By: Caboose447 / 2008-06-04]
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  • I think it is a sack of crap. Was it written by some RIAA/MPAA lawyer? <j/k> As for " professional technical certifications from Microsoft and others, and with those designations come ethical responsibilities and the like." Micro$haft & ehical rsponsibilities = oxymoron. Remember how many lawsuits M$ were involved in due to dodgy business practices? I farkin well do. Actually, I encourage people at work to bring in stuff to fix...BUT NOT FOR FREE. PC skills cost time & money to acquire & I'll be damned if I'm giving them away - ask a lawyer/plastic surgeon/accountant if they'll work for free & see what answer you'll get. I'll work on anything computer related, for the challenge - I'm not "oh, I only know how my site stuff works, I'm a good corporate drone" type, I've been doing this stuff longer than some TSC members have been alive. I'm no gamer, but when it comes to new kit, I'm all "oooh, shiny". So, to make it clear...I think this article is total bollocks. -lineswine
  • ... Now , i may not be the "IT Professional" they mean int hat articvle, being a lowly script monkey and allt hat, bnuit I think it is bloody rubbish. -Ara
  • Uhhhhhh...... No, just no. there are many reasons I wont fix you computer, and none of them are in that article. and yes, often they ARE personal. -Tarantulus
  • Garbage. I know exactly how to fix your computer, Exactly what's wrong with it, and would be willing to do it for a case of cola, i just hate you. -Ratfor
  • I'm in agreement with Lineswine on this. I'm fully prepared to tackle personal PCs, but NOT FOR FREE. And people at work make use of this service. -SoldierJedi
  • For many MCSE's (Microshaft Certified Solitaire Expert), that article may be true. To those of us who started out in this line of work because of our love of technology and the "what makes it tick" mentality it is pure drivel. Although the second and third items do have some truth to them. -ecoli
  • Reading the comments, the one the guy posted as a response, he comes off as a magnificent jerk. -Ara
  • I fix PCs for family and friends. I do not fix them for coworkers because I know what they do to their WORK PCs and am scared to see what they do to their home ones. -TechieSidhe
  • I actually think it raises some real points - I don't deal with music "sharing" or dodgy software copies, and I won't help someone with it. And I have been hired by two co-worker's to repair/install computers, ON the books, as my second, taxed job. -Divinar
  • Its business AND personal. If I am going to work on your PC on my own time, you are going to pay me. My company, like many others, has a contractual clause stating that if I engage in work outside of my job that can take business away from them, I lose my job. -unrenowned
  • But the biggest reason I won't fix most co-worker's computers? They don't understand the difference between "Co-worker" and "Friend" - they are one, but NOT the other! -Divinar
  • Pssh, I've got 2 personal computers in my office RIGHT NOW that I'm working on. They pay for any parts and agree that it'll be a spare time kind of thing, and if it takes six months, it takes six months. I don't do virus cleanups, but I'll FFR them if they don't mind losing everything. -veaudaux
  • The only reason I dont work on coworkers computers... I dont want to become their tech bitch. -neuman1812
  • "It honestly bothers us to work on somebody’s computer and see software like Limewire or the likes of it, because we then know you are illegally downloading music." Umm... no, we hate limewire because it's a cesspool for every piece of crap malware known to man. -Bynar
  • I have the same *morale’s and ethics* as MicroCrap, so I don’t care if you have legal software or not, if it causes a problem, 2 things will happen, it’ll either mean reloading the system or costing more to fix it. I also have the same *morale’s and ethics* as the president of the U.S. as far as work goes, so I don’t mind being paid under the table for my work and often encourage it…My company also has a non-compete clause, if I do any work outside the company for someone else I can be fired…screw’em. I like shiny new things and finding out how they work. I have been in the field a long time and enjoy working on computers at work and at home. -drakenfly
  • Well, I read the article, read everyone's comments, then re-read the article. The only one I completely agree with is #3 (Charging for my time) and partially agree with #4 (I got better things to do than f**k around with your POS PC). That said, I think the article is good - not because any or all of the points made apply to any or all of us, but because it's well written and with potentially valid points. (Almost typed "Pints" - wonder where my mind is?) If I have any issue with it at all, it's with the idea that we want/need to be in control. Most techs I know aren't control freaks, nor are we confused by new elements - that we leave to the starfishies. -Grayhawk
  • To some extent I kind of agree witht he article. I will tend not to want to work on someone's personal computer. There are multiple reasons for this: 1. I really don't want to come across anything I really don't want to know about (brain bleach has nasty side efefcts) 2. I don't want to spend hours trying to clean out the 1444 pieces of spyware and viruses on your system because you refused to install AV and firewalls on your system, and not even be grateful that I was willing to do it. 3. It's my time and I'd rather be spending time with my wife. 4.This opens the door to my being your tech biatch. (Cue Dana Carvey "Nope, aint gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent".) -McSmiley
  • Yeah, the writer is full of it. I handle jobs on the side, and my rates are known, and agreed to, up front. Eliminates a lot of confusion. -PTSTech
  • lol I read the article, then went back to re-read it, and the sites broke. did we fark it? lol. -drachen
  • ok... it is decently written, but I do not agree... there are people who I'll say yes to, there are people that I'll say fsck off to, and there are people that I politely say no to... I have no problems working on side systems for money... I have no problem with your illegal music/movie/software collection, you may have something I don't and therefore I just obtained it quickly and easily... and even though copious amounts of brain bleach may be needed, I'll go through your pr0n for anything that may strike my fancy (YES! Z.G.B.!!!)... I'll fix it, for a price, IF I feel like saying yes and have the time... I like shiny things and I like solving problems. Also it keeps me from getting rusty on real world problems. If you're constantly ONLY doing your corporate work, where you're 'in control', then you WILL end up like the writer and only be familiar with what you do every day. On the plus side... if someone comes up to me and asks if I'll fix theirs, I politely say no, and they ask "Why not?" I'll direct them to that article to get them the fark away from me... -TechnoTherapist
  • The article's not really all that well written. He's right, I don't enjoy fixing your PC, however that has nothing to do with whether or not "I know about the latest graphics card" or whatever. I can quite easily charge what my time is worth, it's simply a matter of "Do you want to pay me" if you don't, then fixing your PC won't be my problem. I don't care about "Overlooking" your illegal software, because if it's a legal issue for me, I can send you right home. I don't have a legal obligation to report jack, mainly because I don't know if you own a legal copy of that song or not. Thousands of MP3's are not a sign of illegal pirating, as my roommate has spent hours and hours converting her entire CD collection to MP3. Finally, the whole "Need to be in control" thing is the most totally assed and lazy thing I've ever heard. -LazyLemming
  • I encourage my EUs to bring in their personal computers to me. First, I genuinely enjoy working on them, and it keeps my skills honed. Secondly, the more I can foster off interest in free, non-Microsoft products, the more I feel I've made an actual difference. As for what I charge, it's the same for everyone, regardless: "You owe me a lunch (plus any parts)." -RiffRaff
  • I can sort of see his point from a mcse point of view, but, I can't agree with it cuz I work for a computer store and I'm the tech. I fix personal computers all day long (Including coworkers). I DO hate limewire tho for all the crapware it installs and problems it causes. But, I'm also not allowed to support any pc that has cracked M$ software on it cuz we're M$ certified, and that could get us into legal trouble -Spyder19
  • Obviously not written by a real geek. You don't enjoy tinkering with gadgets? Not a geek! Don't know how to fix a problem unless its with set hardware? Script-monkey! Ethical dilemma of file sharing because I have some certs? LMAO. Dude, Limewire? So 5 years ago. Article had to be written by a corporate IT drone with no real technical skills. -SirJosh
  • I suppose there's the "you touched it so it's now your problem". Some things simply cannot be fixed without taking a lot of money, brains, and time. And I don't want to be liable in case the job needs a complete replacement or is a money pit. -Wraith556
  • Fixing personal PCs *is* what I do. If you bring me a PC to look at, you *will* get charged for it. Company PCs? I do those for free 'cause I like the (very small) company I work for, and we rarely have any issues with 'em anyway. -OgdenTechGuy
  • I think the author should have mentioned his previous experience in the article, which would have diverted some of the negative comments. But I do disagree with the majority of the article. I do enjoy dealing with hardware that I'm not familiar with since it's a learning experience. I do try to keep up on the latest hardware <not that I can afford to buy it>. I will work on co-irkers systems, but for pay. I don't care about what's on it <well, kiddie pron and the like are an exception>. I will not be anyones tech biatch, with 2 exceptions. My landlords, who are very kewl and treat me well, and my neighbor who lets me leech his dsl for free, even though I've offered to pay. If the system works fine when it leaves here, and doesn't a month down the road, not my fault. It's something you did, not me, and I make that understood to customers. If they have a problem with that, take it to someone else. If I fix a system and it's not right within a short time span, I'll repair it for free <software>. If hardware fails, they can deal with the mfgr, or I will for a fee -Grembo
  • Yep! I won't fix personal PCs (redundant?) because I lose sleep every time I see a friend with an improperly licensed copy of Office '07. Yeah. That's it. -ManTheTubes

  • 17. NT/OT: "I'll be back..."
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7419751.stm Scary stuff... :-)
    [By: SoldierJedi / 2008-06-04]
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  • Right so, canned food and weapons stockpiling begins today!! -starfishmagnet
  • Are those abandoned missile silos still for sale? -neuman1812
  • I'm with neuman... I'm shopping now. -TechnoTherapist
  • "Anomaly in the software" my shiny metal ass! -Captain Trips
  • You're starting now? We'd already begun the stockpiling in preparation of the coming zombie apocalypse. -LazyLemming
  • "did not behave normally" What the Fsck?! April 21st, 2011 I'll be on vacation on another planet... -drakenfly
  • And to make matters worse... and http://www.cyberdyne.jp/english/index.html -TechnoTherapist
  • We close on our new house on June 27th. Construction of my new bomb shelter begins June 28th. My name is Riff Conner; future leader of the human resistance. -RiffRaff
  • I'll turn on the freakout mode when I see an ad for "YoyoDyne", and a picture of John Smallberries on a billboard! And not before! -jerrybear
  • Screw you guys. I'm siding with them. I'll either die quick or get to kill people (most of which will have been stupid users during their pathetic lives). Win-win! -SirJosh
  • "Prepare yourselves, for the Day of Judgement fast approacheth!" (/takeoff on phrophetic hermit signs) -MadJack
  • from TT's link..."strong" R&D and will "introduce" very new products and "services" to the society"--cover yer sphincters y'all -stiffarm
  • and the diagram reminded me of this site--http://zapatopi.net/blackhelicopters/ -stiffarm
  • Me, I'm not allowed to freak out over anything that indicates Yoyodyne is back in business, or the applicable Johns are running loose on the planet again. It interferes too much with putting a stop to their deviltry, and besides that, I have to set an example for the local Junior Blue Blazes (not to mention that Lowlyte Jr. wouldn't let me live it down if I dropped the ball on that one). As for what may happen regarding Skynet, well, the usual applies and I don't particularly want to have to do anybody in today... Takes more work than I'm willing to go to on my day off to take care of the bodies. <grin> -lowlyte

  • 18. Computers need Electricity?
    Starfish: Good morning Rival, ........ Communications between your server and mine have failed both monday and tuesday. I went to your building and found out that the server was not powered on. Please do not turn the server off until I finish the end of year process. I'll e-mail you when we are done with this process. ........... Rival: We don't turn the machine off, so it must be maintenance unplugging it from the wall while cleaning the area at the end of the year. .......... Starfish: I don't need it plugged in, I just need it turned on.
    [By: Rival / 2008-06-04]
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  • Wireless power... Haven't you heard? It's all the rage now. *tink tink tink* -RA
  • "But it was turned on. Someone unplugged it, but it was still 'on', right?" -Divinar
  • "If I only had a Brain." </scarecrow> -NetOwl
  • "Sir, do you still have the box the 'server' came in?" "Yes, why?" "Well, you need to disconnect the computer, pack it back into the box, and return it to the company you got it from telling them that YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO OWN A COMPUTER!" (Believe it or not, it's a true story -- a friend of mine had a coworker get fired for telling a customer the "your too stupid" line. And you thought it was just a story on Tech Tales!) -Captain Trips
  • I thought we were using Power Over Ethernet on the wireless antenna! Doesn't that provide power to my laptop when it connects with Wi-Fi? -TieDyedDinosaur
  • Somebodies been drinking to much of the purple sticky punch water again... -drakenfly
  • or too little of the Jonestown punch -stiffarm

  • 19. SET [tinfoil=[max]]
    Actual convo: $USER: What is this icon in the system tray, it wasn't there before. ME: $APP, we did a mass install overnight. $USER: But my machine was locked! ME: Yes, I saw that. $USER: But you CAN'T UNLOCK IT! ME: wha-bwha? $USER: HOW DID YOU DO THAT???!!! OMGWTFBBQELEVENTY1 ME: I'm an admin - it's sort of my job and stuff- $USER: HOW DO I KEEP YOU FROM GETTING ON MY COMPUTER? ME: Get a job somewhere else, or find me one. Your choice. $USER: *click* The nutters would seem to be in rare form today...
    [By: PTSTech / 2008-06-04]
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  • "I was never on YOUR computer. I was on the COMPANY'S computer that you are, uh," <clickity, <clickity> "WERE allowed to use." -Divinar
  • These people would really be terrified if they knew how much a network admin can really see about them. They're lucky we tend to be disinterested in their petty little lives. -veaudaux
  • We are? -NoneProvided
  • Yep, the user never understands rule #1. That's not YOUR computer, it's the company's and they're just kind enough to let you borrow it for a while. They tend to crap bricks when you explain it to them in those terms though.... -fdiskcuresall
  • That must have been the same guy that was freaked out back in the Windows 98 days when someone showed them you could bypass a network login and get into the local computer by pressing 'escape'. Most of my clients have a network use policy that explicitly states they have no expectation of privacy on the network. The gov't clients even regularly remind staff that written and electronic communication are subject to FOIA. So, I don't encounter this much. -NightSteel
  • NS - I'd LOVE to add that disclaimer here at login, if only to see the herd panic. It'd be like one of those nature vids where a wildebeest loses it for no apparent reason, and the next thing you know, a waving mass of beest(?) is haulin' it across the plain... -PTSTech
  • Methinks someone's got something he doesn't want you to see... -Rissa
  • Is there some particular reason you wouldn't want an administrator to be able to get in to a COMPANY owned computer? -McSmiley
  • "Congratulations! You just put yourself on the top of my list! Remember, I can even intercept SMS and PIN messages from your Blackberry... wouldn't your wife love to see those??!!" -MasterOfNone

  • 20. Fun at Costco
    At the local costco, there are display PCs. These have the stickers that advertise what you get when you buy the PC. Some wag took off the "Vista Ready" sticker off a computer and put it on a box of instant mashed potatoes.
    [By: Ichiro / 2008-06-04]
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  • Sounds about right... -PTSTech
  • Could also put the sticker on cans of mixed nuts, pooper scoopers, toilet paper, condoms, rubber gloves and antibacterial sprays. -ecoli
  • I don't think I would trust "Vista Ready" condoms. Microsoft threw that tag on everything no matter the quality. -LazyLemming
  • Fuck no, don't put it on consumables. It belongs on flushable cat litter. -RiffRaff
  • Whenever I get a laptop I always peal the "Designed for Windows XX" sticker off ('cause I'm about to wipe the HD and install Linux) and apply it to something else. So far, my copier and five trashcans are all "Designed for Windows"... Sadly, I've yet to have anyone comment on the trashcans *sigh* -LinuXtreme
  • LX: They're "Recycle Bins" ;~} -RiffRaff

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